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Monday, April 27, 2015

The Ease of Training First Fresheners to Milk

I know the title of this article made some folks laugh. Especially those that have had the pleasure of training goats to milk. Sometimes it can be difficult at best, if not downright unbearable. I have a good friend that
milked a goat for several years and had to hobble her goat every time, even after a couple of years. That, I would find unbearable. We have always had Nubian milk goats, so I am not familiar with the personalities and idiosyncrasies of any other breed. We did raise a Boer goat once, and her baby, but they were a much more aggressive breed and did not fit in with our preferences in livestock. So we ate them. That is typically what happens to chickens and goats that don't settle in and find their place in the scheme of things. Now we usually sell the does that just don't work out, but we do it with full disclosure of why we are selling them to all potential buyers. The friend that had to hobble her goat bought Ivory, our screamer, back in the fall, knowing full well how loud her vocal cords could be. We had a laugh about it on the phone the other day. I guess she still hollers every time my friend goes outside, but is supposedly settling down some.

Back to training first fresheners. I commented to Frank the other day about how incredibly easy my three young does have been to milk this year. It has really surprised me. He told me it probably
Faith and one of Penny's newborn babies
had something to do with my experience, and that after you do something for a long time you figure out how to work out the kinks. That was interesting, and got me to thinking. Why has it been so easy this year, and what can I pass along to others who are just getting started, or are having a hard time? I have also been giving our friend, Faith, milking lessons. You know, you've heard of piano lessons, painting lessons, driving lessons, and even cooking lessons, but it's kind of weird to think of milking lessons. That has also made me stop and think about all of the little steps that have become an automatic part of my daily routine. I've been giving milking lessons because Penny, her two boys, and Copper's girl, Buttons, who is Penny's sister, will soon be going to Faith's house.


This story starts back in 2010 when I first began milking here on this homestead. We had two does that I milked for a year or two back in the late 1990's before we moved to Alaska, but I really don't remember much about any techniques I used back then. When I started milking in 2010, we had 11 does. I know I didn't train them all, because we sold some of them that spring after the babies were born. Some we sold with babies by their side and others individually. I think I trained five of them then, but I can't be sure. I remember being so nervous, trying to make the goats happy and
The girls of 2010
stand still without putting their foot in the bucket and ruining the milk. I remember being frustrated and impatient with their noncompliant behavior. I remember trying to coax, then coerce, then force the behavior I was wanting and expecting. I remember some rather nervous does, because they weren't real sure how I would be acting at a given time. I remember thinking I would never get a handle on how to get milk out of a teat without squirting it all over me, the doe, the milk stand, the ground, anywhere but inside the bucket. I remember fighting with Katy because she hated, really hated, having teat dip applied after I finished milking....for years. I finally started lifting her right hind leg way up by her hip so she couldn't jump around while I applied the teat dip. It was much easier on me and quicker, too. I remember being on the last goat, almost finished, when she kicked the bucket over and spilled the milk from three goats, or stuck her foot in it and ruined the whole bucket full. I remember how good that first, fresh, raw milk tasted, too. It was wonderful!



I think the things I remember will bring a smile to your face if you've ever tried to train a goat to milk. If you are planning to train a milk goat, don't be discouraged. It does get better. If you never have goats, I hope this is an interesting story.

The first challenge I had was how to get the goat on the milk stand. We have collars on all of the goats. If you take a goat by the collar and it tightens, even gently, under their chin on the neck, they will choke, very easily. At first, I worried about that, until I realized it doesn't hurt them. I tried many, many things to get goats to
Copper, 2013
cooperate and willingly get on the milk stand....like they do now. I now start out bringing the young does in on the milk stand when they are young. I start around six months of age, usually not long after they have bred. It doesn't happen everyday, but with gradual, occasional experience, the does begin to realize that coming into the barn and climbing on the milk stand will provide the rewards of a meal and a back scratch. Initially, I try coaxing the doe onto the stand voluntarily using a bowl of feed. I explained this technique when Copper was young, here. She has now had her second set of kids and gets on the stand with ease. She launches herself up from the side foregoing the steps everyone else uses. There have been a few times she slid when she landed on the stand, which caused her to fall. She was skittish for a few days, but then once again started launching herself on the stand.


With my first does, I didn't start bringing them in to the milk stand until right after they had their first babies. This added one more thing to the list of new things these young mothers had to adjust to. They had just had
babies, they were sore, some of them were afraid of their babies and still didn't have the nursing thing down, and now I'm taking them by the collar and bringing them to an unfamiliar place, trying to get them to step up on this platform thing while slightly choking from having their collar pulled on. Sound like fun? It didn't work very well at all. This was the time of frustration for me and the goat. Now that I have started training the does to the stand well before they give birth, they are more than happy to come in and get on the stand for a meal. They already know what to expect, and I barely need to lead them at all. That takes care of the first hurdle. 

Next is the process of milking. Since I handled the does more and more as they come in on the stand, they didn't even flinch when I started milking them the day after they gave birth. That was great! I could go into another one of those I remember stories, but I won't. Lots of handling of the udder,
the belly area, scratching and patting, makes the goat more trusting of your care and handling. Use a firm, not timid hand, to maneuver a goat into the position you want them to be in. Penny tends to stand right on the outside edge of the stand. If she took one step to the right, she would fall right off. When you go to push her back towards the left side of the stand, which has a railing to keep her from falling off that side, she leans into your hand, making her even more off balance. At first I tried to slowly gently, get her to take a step to the left, only to have her really lean into me. That didn't work, so now, I firmly and quickly push her, making her take a step or two to the left, and quickly remove my hands, causing her to regain her balance right where I want her. And since Penny is going to Faith's house, she has practiced this as well.

Now that we have the goat on the milk stand happily eating, it's time to wash the udder, squirt that first stream of milk into the strip cup and begin to milk. I've explained here the process we use along with our equipment, so I won't go over that again. If you've never milked an animal, it can be difficult to 'capture' the milk in the teat so you can squirt it into the bucket instead of allowing it to escape back into the udder. There is a simple, yet
specific technique for this process that I cannot describe in words. You can get a standard, disposable medical glove, poke a tiny pin hole in the end of one finger, tie off the other fingers in a knot, fill it with water and practice 'milking'. When I first started milking I was working so hard at it that I didn't realize that the milk was squirting back into the udder instead of coming out into my bucket. Then I began to feel the milk going back up through my hand as I squeezed, kind of bubbly like. That's when I realized that I had to have a good closure with my thumb and index finger to trap the milk in the teat before I squeezed with the rest of my hand. Even with a slow motion movie, this technique is hard to understand without trying it.

I remember trying to milk fast enough that I was finished before the doe finished her meal. That never happened in the beginning. Some of the
more docile does would turn around and look at me, and kind of nudge me on the arm with their head. Others would start kicking and dancing, even jumping both rear legs into the air as I continued to try to get that closure, squeeze and squirt technique perfected. Inevitably, some of those dancing feet ended up in the bucket, ruining the milk. Even now, when I have a definite rhythm to my milking, and am much faster, I don't always finish before my first fresheners. We are now at one week since I started penning their babies up at night, so they have very full udders in the morning. 

I have found there is a honeymoon period when training all goats, with some it may last a few seconds and with others it may last a few weeks. But then, really, there are others that never give you a break from the first time you try to do anything with them. At first everything is kind of new and the goat seems a little oblivious to the whole milking process. Then after a few days, or even a few
They learn quickly where they are in the line up and when it is their turn.
weeks, they seem to wake up and think, "Hey, what are you doing?" and they begin to dance around or even kick a little. If the season has warmed enough for the flies to be out, that is a whole different issue. Goats hate flies on their legs anytime and will have to learn to raise their leg, stomp and knock off the flies, without hitting the bucket. Sound realistic? It does happen, but it takes a while. In time you will be able to read the body language of your goat. If they start to shift their weight on their back legs, it usually means they are getting ready to lift a leg or foot. I always milk with one hand and keep the other hand on the bucket just in case I need to move it quickly out of the way.


During Faith's last milking lesson, I was talking a lot and not quite keeping up with my normal routine, so Cricket finished eating before I was finished milking. She decided since she was finished, I should be too. This is very typical. If you are a new milker, this is an area where you will have to establish who is boss. It doesn't need to be in a mean way, but it does have to be in a very firm way. Most people use a head stanchion to hold their goats in place while they milk, so the goat can't turn around or try to get off of the stand like mine do. If a goat gives me too much trouble, I will clip them to the fence with a leash. It works fine for me, but it's different than most folks set up. I said this above, but I'll say it again because I think it's important to know. Most young does will go through an initial honeymoon period, but then almost always go through an onery or rebellious stage when they decide that it's time for you to stop milking or else! They will kick at the bucket, try to bring all of their feet in close together to crowd you and the bucket out of the way, or even jump both back feet in the air at the same time, many times landing in the bucket if you're not quick enough to pull it out of the way. Anytime they decide it is time to stop, even if I'm just about finished, I always continue to milking just a little bit longer to make them realize that I will stop when I am finished, not when they want me to. When I first started milking and this would happen, I would stop. I was unsure of myself and lacked the confidence I have now. These does would get worse and worse in their behavior, wanting me to quit earlier and earlier, or not milk all together. It's kind of like a kid throwing a fit and getting their way. If it works once, it should work again. So I did myself a big favor, and learned to keep milking, even if all of the milk got spilled or kicked or both feet landed in it. I milked until I was finished. Period. Once I had retaught my does the correct behavior, instead of the behavior I had allowed to develop, things went much smoother. But it never went as smoothly with those goats that had to relearn correct behavior, as it has with those that never learned the wrong behavior to begin with.

And speaking of feet landing in the bucket. After ruining several almost full buckets of milk, I started bringing an extra bucket with me to the barn. I would milk one goat, pour her milk into the extra bucket, then milk the next goat. That way if a foot landed in the milk, it only ruined that one batch and not all of the milk. That saved a lot of milk as I was in the learning process. Any milk that was ruined by an errant foot was always set aside for the dog, cats and chickens.

While I was writing this article I called the friend that bought our screamer goat. I'm going to call her Hope. I told her I was writing about her and
the screamer, and we had a good laugh. Hope has milked both cows and goats for a number of years, so I asked her what she thought was the most important thing in training a first freshener. She has two of them that just had babies. Hope said that bringing the does in on the milk stand and handling them for several months before they kid is the most beneficial thing that you can do. She brings hers in and handles them all over, mimicking the act of milking each time. She has started milking her first young doe just a few days ago, and things are going very well. 

If you have any other techniques you use, or advice for the novice or veteran milker, please share them in the comment section. If you are new to milking or will be, and have questions, please share them as well. There are as many ways to milk as there are people, of that I am sure. I only milk with one hand at a time, due to my arthritis. I trade off hands and teats as each hand gets tired, so it probably takes me longer to milk than some. While I was in the barn this morning, milking our five does, I was trying
to estimate how many squeezes it took to milk them all. My first guess was about 300 to 500. Boy was I wrong! On the last doe I began to count how many times I squeezed each teat before I traded hands. That came to 50. Then I counted how many times I traded hands. The total came to just under 500 squeezes for the entire milking. 500! That really surprised me. And the last goat was a first freshener that isn't up to full production, so I figure there are about 2500 to 3000 squeezes for a morning milking session for me. That doesn't include milking the does again in the evening whose babies are being weaned. So, if you're getting ready to start milking, you will be surprised at how much stronger your hands and forearms will get after a time.

Now that the screamer has gone to live with Hope, things are quieter, usually. Five goats are a few too many to milk each day, so before long Penny will be going to Faith's house, and we will probably let One Stripe
dry up. She is seven years old now and still has strong healthy babies, but she isn't producing as much milk this year as she has in the past. I plan to breed One Stripe and Cricket in July for December babies. This will give us a good milk supply through the winter. Then Copper, Lady Bug, Patch and Easter will be bred in November for April babies. Even with Penny gone and One Stripe not in milk, Copper, Lady Bug and Cricket will give us plenty of milk for drinking, making cheese, butter and feeding our kefir, dog, cats, chickens and pigs. We feed the whey from cheese making to the animals, and if there is too much of that, we use it to water the plants in the garden.


I really love my goats. I enjoy spending time milking them, training them and have really bonded with them, especially One Stripe, my old lady goat. Copper is her daughter, and she has a special place in my heart as well. We are also keeping One Stripe's daughter Patch, who is already a very sweet, tame little doe. Not only do I simply get great pleasure from working with the goats, they perform their function very nicely by providing us with meat, milk, butter, whey and cheese. I hope this story has been entertaining, educational and useful. I will leave you with a rerun of a short video from The Sounds of a Peaceful Morning Milking.

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Until next time - Fern

15 comments:

  1. Proof time spent to know your animals added to time spent observing behavior pays off!

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    1. It's taken me years, Fiona. There are things that are so easy to see now that I didn't even know existed in the beginning. It's like feeding babies milk before you feed them meat. I feel like I might be in the toddler stage when it comes to goats, but it sure it nice for things to be easier. Thank you for sharing.

      Fern

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  2. Oh this brought back a lot of memories from my teen years. About 9 yrs of milking by hand ended up in two hand surgeries in my20's and 30's. I remember wearing braces and wraps from tendonitis in my younger years and still milked despite the pain it caused me cuz that was my job growing up.Our family of 8 depended on that daily milk twice a day. I have been asked numerous times if I will have milkers and my reply is at this time No. I suppose if I had a machine to milk I would look at it differently. Then again I would have to be here twice a day to milk....for now No. I do miss goats milk tho! I dont drink milk otherwise...I love reading about your girls...they are so well behaved....On another note my screamer I think is going to find a new home when she is closer to weining. I step outside and she screams! Drives me batty! IOne of her girls is mouthy like that too. Which means the buck goes too. Oh well that is the luck of it all.

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    1. There are some interesting, simple milk machines out there, M.E. I have one for a back up when and if my hands just can't do it anymore.

      http://www.henrymilker.com/the-original-henry-milker/

      I surely understand about selling your screamer. When you live in as quiet a world as Frank and I, loud voices just aren't appreciated very much. I don't know why some goats have such different personalities, but I guess it's true of all species. Thank you for sharing.

      Fern

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  3. Every spring after I started milking, I'd wake up at night with my arms and hands just aching. Now I prepare myself for milking too, squeezing a baseball to strengthen them before the girls kid.

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    1. That's a very interesting technique, Kathi. I have never thought of a pre-milking work out program! Thank you for sharing.

      Fern

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  4. Great post! I've been a long time reader, but never posted. My husband and I have finally decided to get some dairy goats and I've been doing a lot of online reading on the topic to get ready. This particular post is just the sort of information I appreciate... so helpful to have knowledge that makes this endeavor more rewarding and fun for all involved.

    Looking forward to learning more!

    Mindy

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    1. Hi, Mindy. It's nice to hear from you.

      You will have wonderful days and days that you wonder what you have gotten yourself into when you get your goats. But I really hope you love having them as much as I do. Just take deep breaths, and realize it will take a while to figure them out. Each personality is a little different, so they won't react the same. If you can, buy some goats that are already very tame and people friendly. It's so much easier than trying to figure out how to tame down some that aren't. What breed do you want to get?

      Please come back with any questions you may have along the way and I will do my best to provide any information I may know. Thank you for sharing and reading.

      Fern

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    2. Hi Fern (and Frank!),

      We're considering Nigerian Dwarfs. We've had chickens for years and have always wanted goats, but have been shy of making a commitment because we'd like to add some extra fencing. I'm very excited about making goat cheese and having some goat meat from time to time. How soon we are ready to get goats remains to be seen, but between my husband and I ... we have a green light to move forward on the goat project:-)

      best regards,
      Mindy

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  5. the ones we planned to keep we would give them a handful of grain on the milking stand while still growing up. We found this makes a world of difference in adult size when compared to a twin from the same doe. Our doe would jump on the stand as soon as the door opened into the milking area.

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    1. I agree, it does make a world of difference. After a few initial, hesitant visits, the does need no coaxing to get on the stand for that small treat of grain. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

      Fern

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  6. Fern and Frank,

    Great post! Your goats are interested in what you're doing, and very peaceful at the same time. All that wonderful milk for making cheese .........YUM!!!

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    1. Thank you, Sandy. Our cheddar wheel count is now 8 in the frig aging, with 4 more on the cabinet drying. I will be waxing 2 of those on Saturday and probably making 2 more. Now, if I can just stand the wait until July when we try the first wheel...... Thank you for sharing.

      Fern

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  7. This post really brought back memories. I miss my goats but I also realize that right now is not the time for us to have them again. Thanks for the memories though. lol

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    1. You're welcome, SFG. Maybe you will be able to get more when the time is right. For now, I know you are enjoying your puppies.

      Fern

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