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Thursday, March 20, 2014

Ivory's Kids & More Goat Lore

Ivory had her babies the day after Copper. She is continuing in her mother's footsteps of waiting until the 155th day after breeding before she kids. It is interesting to know some of the patterns of our animals. It makes our stewardship more effective and informed.

Ivory, March 6th, 153 days

One Stripe typically has her babies 150 days after breeding, which is the average gestation for goats. This year when Copper, One Stripe's daughter, had her first kids, she freshened at 150 days on the nose. Ivory's mother, Katy, typically freshened at 155 days except for the year she had quadruplets, then she gave birth at 153 days. Now, Ivory has had her second set of kids and both years she freshened at 155 days. I find this to be very interesting, useful information.
 
Ivory's mom, Katy, March 2013

Last year Ivory had twins, a buck and a doe, with no problems and was an excellent mom, so I wasn't real worried about her performance this year. She lived up to my expectations, had her babies without any assistance or trouble, cleaned them up, talked to them constantly and made sure they were well fed. She is a very productive doe. Her only flaws are yelling at the top of her lungs when we walk in the barn and butting the other does on occasion. We have debated off and on about selling her.
 
March 8th


This year Ivory has given us two beautiful replacement does. This may make it easier to sell her come fall. We will use her milk, along with One Stripe's and Copper's to make our supply of cheese this summer. After we have all we need for the year, we may go ahead and sell Ivory around August. This will give us five does since we are keeping Copper's doe, Penny, and Ivory's girls, Cricket and Lady Bug. This will be plenty of breeding stock for us and more than enough milk production for next year.

Ivory, Lady Bug, Pearl and Cricket

Next year there will be three young does to to train to milk. This year Copper was the only doe that I needed to train and, thanks to how tame she was to begin with, this has not taken hardly any work at all. I will do another post on milking a newly trained goat before long. Over time, if you ever get this opportunity, you will learn little tricks that can make a big difference, kind of like the hints Frank has given about hatching and raising baby chicks. Experience really is the best teacher and I learn more everyday. I will never be through learning or know everything there is about anything. Take your comments, for instance. This is a new source of information that I have found to be very valuable.



Right after the baby goats are born, they will walk right up to you with no fear. When they approach about a four to five days old, they develop the instinct to be afraid of things that are bigger or above them and will flinch or try to get away from you. After they reach about ten days to two weeks old and are more steady on their feet and more confident in their ability to move around and get away, they become curious. It really helps to have tame, manageable does. This is the best way to have easy to handle kids. Velvet's boys now run around us and try to jump up on our legs. They are very tame and easy to handle. Copper and Ivory's kids are just now starting to come up and smell our legs or hands, but if we bend over too quickly to pet them, they are off and running. It won't be long before they will be tame and easy to pet and work with as well.
 
One Stripe and one of her adopted boys

Pearl, our Great Pyrenees livestock guardian, is the greatest babysitter we have. She has the patience of Job when it comes to these baby goats. And they just love her. Her laid back, gentle nature also contributes to the overall calm atmosphere at the barn with our goats.




Time is the best teacher when it comes to raising livestock. We have researched and read for many, many years. Working with, raising, butchering and learning to cull according to our long term goals are all things that have come with time. When we first began raising goats, I didn't know much about udders - which ones were good, which ones were bad, what is a good attachment and shape, which ones produces more milk or were easier to milk. There was so much to know and I could only learn so much from reading. The real learning came when I started milking every day and trying to train goats to be milked. I have made my fair share of mistakes,  and will make more in the future, but I have learned in the process. 



Stay tuned. There is more lore to explore. 


Until next time - Fern


8 comments:

  1. Are Nubians a polled breed or do you have to debud them? If so what do you use? You do have beautiful goats!

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    1. They are not polled, Fiona. In fact, the vet was out yesterday to burn their horn buds. I will be doing a post on it before long. Good, timely question.

      I think I am rather biased, but, yes, I do think our goats are beautiful! Thank you!

      Fern

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  2. I love reading these stories about your goats! My favorite picture is the one of the kid on your dog's back! That dog must have the patience (and humor) of a saint! Thanks for sharing your stories - I look forward to more! And someday, I would like to milk a goat!

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    1. The dog doesn't appear to mind the babies playing around or on her anytime. It is not unusual to see her laying down with the baby goats playing 'king of the hill' on top of her.

      Keep dreaming and planning, then maybe your milking experience will happen. Dreams do come true, just not always in the way we want or as quick as we want, sometimes.

      Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts. I'm glad you enjoy what you see.

      Fern

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  3. Thank you for the pictures. My youngest daughter loves them.

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    1. You are very welcome. Tell her we said, "Hi!"

      Fern

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  4. Hi Fern! Wonderful post and pics! My Nigerians are still a little skiddish of me, so I hope they won't be hard to train to milk! They are over two years old and just now pregnant!
    Do you have unrelated bucks for breeding the doelings when they get older? I will have to get an unrelated buck if we keep any of our does doelings. Thanks for all the valuable information! I look forward to more! Blessings from Bama!

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    1. Hi Felicia,

      This year we had a great buck, friendly, easy to work with, but he started attacking our Pyrenees. So, Frank got the baseball bat and hit a dinger out into left field. The dog is a lot higher on the food chain than that goat, so now he is gone and we are looking for a new one. We have occasionally bred back father to daughter if we only keep one young doe, but very seldom. We get a new buck every year or two. It is easier to keep the buck for a second year if you don't keep any of his young. It just depends on what the goals are for your herd.

      Time is the best tamer with goats, and sometimes that doesn't work either, it is all in the personality. You will probably have some interesting times training them to milk, but it is well worth the effort. I haven't raised Nygerians, so I'm not sure how much milk they give or the ease of milking them. Some goats have very small teats which makes it more of a challenge.

      Let me know how things go.

      Fern

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